From farm labourer to erudite defence counsel to public prosecutor to High Court Judge BG Kolse Patil, today a mass leader speaks to Teesta Setalvad, of upper caste bias in the highest echelons of the institutions of Indian democracy, the need for a monitoring of the Electronic Voting Machines (EVMs) that are tamperable and the divisive charecteristics of the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh(RSS) and Hindutva organisations.